Footwear to go with our jackets

[Downunder G Man]

A "proper" West Australian "winter" shot today. Blue skies to the horizon with a reasonable easterly.
Taken at Trigg surfbeach. there were quite a few in today , some in the backdrop. Wee boys in swimtrunks in too !
That means a cool wind from the desert which is only maybe 350 K's inland from Perth. 5C to 19C swing today.
Jacket of choice today my Simmons Bilt Nebraska in black goat. Desert boots are Australian made Rossi "Sahara".
Jeans are Australian made Levi 505 button fly "dad" jeans.

 

[Edward]

Now that's proper Summer weather - send some of it up here!

 

[Downunder G Man]

Schott 641HH café racer today for the winter Tuesday Harley ride. A gloomy day the harbinger of tomorrow's coming rain.

Rain until next Tuesday is the forecast as of tomorrow arvo. yes I know , "not really a WINTER" but it sure feels like it !

Boots are Lucchese Classic Ostrich heeled Western boots. 15 years old. " Shop demos" when purchased.

 

[Imuricecreamman]

Hand dyed these original burgundy grensons into a jet black top coat. Will be interesting to see how they age.

 

[Superfluous]

Schott 641HH café racer today for the winter Tuesday Harley ride. A gloomy day the harbinger of tomorrow's coming rain.

Rain until next Tuesday is the forecast as of tomorrow arvo. yes I know , "not really a WINTER" but it sure feels like it !

Boots are Lucchese Classic Ostrich heeled Western boots. 15 years old. " Shop demos" when purchased.

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Same photo – four different threads on the same day:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/thr...ou-wearing-today.82949/page-1261#post-2696431

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/over-50-wearing-leather-jackets.101020/page-7

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/footwear-to-go-with-our-jackets.91962/page-54

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/lets-see-those-motorcycle-jackets.96730/page-19#post-2696436

 

[Downunder G Man]

Good innit ! You can't get too much of a good thing !

 

[Mich486]

This is me when checking out TFL in the morning

 

[Robbie79]

Is anyone here how owns shoes/boots from Feit? Quality/construction/material seems to be top notch and the boots are fully hand welted in the US. Are they as good as Vibergs from quality point of view? I really dig following boots made of brown cowhide for next Autumn/Winter even if I know that they are massive:

 

[Imuricecreamman]

Is anyone here how owns shoes/boots from Feit? Quality/construction/material seems to be top notch and the boots are fully hand welted in the US. Are they as good as Vibergs from quality point of view? I really dig following boots made of brown cowhide for next Autumn/Winter even if I know that they are massive:

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From what I've Seen they have an Even more "handmade" feel to them they use Amazing materials though.

 

[Imuricecreamman]

After 2 days of use in hard, rainy conditions a slight eggplant color seeps through the black. First a pic of how they looked before.

 

[Robbie79]

After 2 days of use in hard, rainy conditions a slight eggplant color seeps through the black. First a pic of how they looked before. View attachment 249348 View attachment 249349

They look beautiful and I like the colour! Are these made by Grenson?

 

[Imuricecreamman]

Thanks! Made by Grenson, the model was called "Ryan" The last is extremely comfortable on my feet and they've seen quite a lot of wear through the years.

 

[ABCD]

the boots are fully hand welted in the US.

What is the difference between hand welted shoes and machine welted shoes? Is there a structural difference, or is it purely cosmetic? If I'm correct, hand welting allows for a higher stitch count. This is a closeup of an Edward Green boot which is handwelted using a pigs bristle:

This is a crockett and Jones derby which is welted using a machine:

I can't see u huge difference to be honest.

Handwelted edward greens:

Machine welted church's

In this case, the church have a lower stitch count than the EG'S.

Or am I totally wrong and has handwelting nothing to do with stitchcount per inch?

 

[navetsea]

After 2 days of use in hard, rainy conditions a slight eggplant color seeps through the black. First a pic of how they looked before. View attachment 249348 View attachment 249349

so the color get diluted again and absorbed deeper into the leather? or run off with the rain?
dye means the new color is absorbed? right?

 

[Imuricecreamman]

What is the difference between hand welted shoes and machine welted shoes? Is there a structural difference, or is it purely cosmetic? If I'm correct, hand welting allows for a higher stitch count. This is a closeup of an Edward Green boot which is handwelted using a pigs bristle: View attachment 249356

This is a crockett and Jones derby which is welted using a machine:
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I can't see u huge difference to be honest.

Handwelted edward greens:
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Machine welted church's View attachment 249360
In this case, the church have a lower stitch count than the EG'S.

Or am I totally wrong and has handwelting nothing to do with stitchcount per inch?

Must be an extremely more timeconsuming process. Even when you see skilled craftsmen do it it looks extremely laborous.

 

[navetsea]

What is the difference between hand welted shoes and machine welted shoes? Is there a structural difference, or is it purely cosmetic? If I'm correct, hand welting allows for a higher stitch count. This is a closeup of an Edward Green boot which is handwelted using a pigs bristle: View attachment 249356

This is a crockett and Jones derby which is welted using a machine:
View attachment 249357
I can't see u huge difference to be honest.

Handwelted edward greens:
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Machine welted church's View attachment 249360
In this case, the church have a lower stitch count than the EG'S.

Or am I totally wrong and has handwelting nothing to do with stitchcount per inch?

purely from your photo comparison, seems like with handwelting it can get closer partially more hidden under the upper perhaps? in some countries where wage is cheaper than investing in machinery, hand welting is just that.

 

[Imuricecreamman]

so the color get diluted again and absorbed deeper into the leather? or run off with the rain?
dye means the new color is absorbed? right?

A lot of the color seems to get absorbed into the leather giving it a much darker color which blends nicely with the original color. The rain and moisture seems to have taken the residual black color on the top.

 

[ABCD]

purely from your photo comparison, seems like with handwelting it can get closer partially more hidden under the upper perhaps? in some countries where wage is cheaper than investing in machinery, hand welting is just that.

I agree that from the previous photo comparison that seems to be the case. However, here's another closeup of a crockett and Jones machine welted shoe, pretty close to the upper.

Now these are all examples of dress shoes. Since dress shoes should be elegant one could argue that a higher stitch count or stitching closer to the upper would be preferable because it looks more elegant. Personally, on rugged boots which are essentially work wear, I don't see the need for these qualities. The machine welted construction is more than fine.

 

[Robbie79]

What is the difference between hand welted shoes and machine welted shoes? Is there a structural difference, or is it purely cosmetic? If I'm correct, hand welting allows for a higher stitch count. This is a closeup of an Edward Green boot which is handwelted using a pigs bristle: View attachment 249356

This is a crockett and Jones derby which is welted using a machine:
View attachment 249357
I can't see u huge difference to be honest.

Handwelted edward greens:
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Machine welted church's View attachment 249360
In this case, the church have a lower stitch count than the EG'S.

Or am I totally wrong and has handwelting nothing to do with stitchcount per inch?

Not sure about the stitch count but manufacturing a hand welted shoe for sure takes much longer than making a machine welted shoe and quality and longevity of a shoe depends on quality of materials used and skills of the artisan.

 

[Harris HTM]

What is the difference between hand welted shoes and machine welted shoes? Is there a structural difference, or is it purely cosmetic? If I'm correct, hand welting allows for a higher stitch count. This is a closeup of an Edward Green boot which is handwelted using a pigs bristle: View attachment 249356

This is a crockett and Jones derby which is welted using a machine:
View attachment 249357
I can't see u huge difference to be honest.

Handwelted edward greens:
View attachment 249359

Machine welted church's View attachment 249360
In this case, the church have a lower stitch count than the EG'S.

Or am I totally wrong and has handwelting nothing to do with stitchcount per inch?

https://www.misiuacademy.com/methods-of-shoe-construction/