How many new jackets do you have coming (and how many potential ones)?

[TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead]

I'm considering this Eastman Leather Mechanic Type D-1 but due to my lack of experience with both Eastman and shearling jackets, I'm not sure if 375€ is a reasonable price for an Eastman D-1 in this "good" condition. The owner told me that no cleaning is necessary (no odors) and also no repairs are necessary, just the shearling is a bit worn on sleeves and hem. I wonder if cleaning in a bathtub with warm water and detergents is possible or if extra chemical dry cleaning is necessary. I was also in discussing with John Lever about his RMC B-3 but I'm not sure about sizing (42) and also if the B-3 is too thick/warm for our climate. D-1 or B-6 might be a better choice. I was even thinking about Thedi's thinner modified B-3 jacket. What do you guys think? Thanks!

Robbie, I got a used Aero B3 off the classifieds over the summer. The day it arrived, it was literally 105 degrees (40 C I think) in Los Angeles. My wife thought I completely lost my mind as I wore it around the house in flip flops and boxer shorts.

First thing I did was take it to a tailor because it was a size big. I wasn't sure how much to compensate for the shearling thickness and all that so I ended up like 3 inches too big on the chest and 1.5 on the shoulders. The shoulders I couldn't fix without a major rework, but my tailor did a great job on the ptp, waist and bottom hem. Almost fits like a D1 now.

I bought it because it's just one of those things I always wanted. Living in LA, I knew I wouldn't get a lot of use out of it. But here's what I found. I can wear it in like 30-45 minute bursts, walking the dog, hanging out in the yard, sitting by a fire pit, quick market stop, etc. So in some ways, I think I can probably get like 50 wears out of it in specialized situations. There's no way though I could wear it all day long, getting in and out of cars, being indoor/outdoor, etc. Any sort of exertion is going to make you break a sweat. I think this thing can go sub zero and not even flinch. So it's going to get hot quick. And it's just bulky.

So I guess it depends on what you need the jacket for. If it's like your all day jacket, I wouldn't go B3 unless you live in Greenland.

 

[jonbuilder]

It’s mine. Very special thanks to Alan at Johnson leathers for offering me a rock’n good deal on this bad boy. They are shortening the kidney panel by 1.5” and I’ll be GOOD TO GO. Ridiculously happy to be getting back into the cross zip game with this jacket.
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I have seen your new jacket in person, you will not be disappointed. It was on display to be seen first thing when I walked into the store.

 

[Jin431]

Jin, The A-2s are all laid out pretty clearly on his website but his civilian jackets are not as easy to find. handymike is right that perusing the photo index of his “Californian” models is probably the best way to pick your favorite. For me I think that the Arcadia is still probably my favorite one. I will let you guys know if that changes when I receive the Hercules.

Yes, I have been browsing the Californian and Monarch. It's incredibly well made judging on the photos. I like the Arcadia and Ventura models but leaning towards the Ventura more. it might be off putting to email him before I check with you guys, but can you ask for the false belt to be removed?

 

[DrMacabre]

I know a few people have gotten things from Bronson around here. Also can’t recall if the thread was about a tanker or B jacket, but one awhile back about that. In any case I’m in the market for a tanker jacket, but need it to be a reasonable price whatever that means haha. Bronson looks to have a different version for about 160. ATF actually has an attractive tanker because it’s only 99. It doesn’t have an authentic liner but that’s fine by me, I’m not an Army/War guy I just happen to love the look of tankers and need a decent fall/early winter jacket. For example Buzz Rickson have a great version but it’s 445. So Id like to have a tanker incoming but looking for any experience her with Bronson or ATF tankers. Thanks all.

I’m waiting for my 1st pattern tanker from Bronson to be delivered, I’ll make sure to keep you updated on the quality. So far with Bronson, i have been very satisfied with their products considering the price tag.

 

[dannyk]

I’m waiting for my 1st pattern tanker from Bronson to be delivered, I’ll make sure to keep you updated on the quality. So far with Bronson, i have been very satisfied with their products considering the price tag.

Good to know and look forward to your assessment. Thanks!

 

[Robbie79]

Robbie, I got a used Aero B3 off the classifieds over the summer. The day it arrived, it was literally 105 degrees (40 C I think) in Los Angeles. My wife thought I completely lost my mind as I wore it around the house in flip flops and boxer shorts.

First thing I did was take it to a tailor because it was a size big. I wasn't sure how much to compensate for the shearling thickness and all that so I ended up like 3 inches too big on the chest and 1.5 on the shoulders. The shoulders I couldn't fix without a major rework, but my tailor did a great job on the ptp, waist and bottom hem. Almost fits like a D1 now.

I bought it because it's just one of those things I always wanted. Living in LA, I knew I wouldn't get a lot of use out of it. But here's what I found. I can wear it in like 30-45 minute bursts, walking the dog, hanging out in the yard, sitting by a fire pit, quick market stop, etc. So in some ways, I think I can probably get like 50 wears out of it in specialized situations. There's no way though I could wear it all day long, getting in and out of cars, being indoor/outdoor, etc. Any sort of exertion is going to make you break a sweat. I think this thing can go sub zero and not even flinch. So it's going to get hot quick. And it's just bulky.

So I guess it depends on what you need the jacket for. If it's like your all day jacket, I wouldn't go B3 unless you live in Greenland.

@TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead Many thanks for sharing your B3 jacket experience. I would just need it for colder days but we hardly have colder days (below 0C) here even if the climate is colder than in LA. TBH the B-3 is still my dream shearling jacket as I simply like the overall design more than D-1 or B-6. An option could be a Coastal Command with the yellow hood (@MrProper thanks again....I now remember that I posted a comment in your jacket review thread during Summer when I wasn't thinking about a Shearling jacket and I hope you forgive me if I'm also considering this one...not yet decided).

 

[Robbie79]

Why are you so strongly against washing a shearling jacket?

See this post below apparently some member has already done it and the result is fine.
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/wash-your-jacket-before-and-after-pic.97592/#post-2558461

@Kalmer Thanks for sharing this link and good to know that I can work. I've also contacted ELC in the meantime asking for their advice but still waiting for their feedback. If I really buy the D-1 I'm not sure if I really would risk washing it as the sheepskin looks really good except the shearling on the sleeves and hem.

 

[Carlos840]

11 months.

Absolutely Jon!

11 months! How?
We have a new chosen one!

 

[ABCD]

@TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead Many thanks for sharing your B3 jacket experience. I would just need it for colder days but we hardly have colder days (below 0C) here even if the climate is colder than in LA. TBH the B-3 is still my dream shearling jacket as I simply like the overall design more than D-1 or B-6. An option could be a Coastal Command with the yellow hood (@MrProper thanks again....I now remember that I posted a comment in your jacket review thread during Summer when I wasn't thinking about a Shearling jacket and I hope you forgive me if I'm also considering this one...not yet decided).

What about John levers real Mccoy B3? https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/f-s-real-mccoys-roughwear-b3-size-42.102560/

 

[Tom71]

I’ve got a Good Wear Hercules headed my way.
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Black Shinki with olive drab stitching (of course). Red Harris Tweed lining.

This looks stunning from the teaser-photo only!!

 

[MrProper]

@TooManyHatsOnlyOneHead Many thanks for sharing your B3 jacket experience. I would just need it for colder days but we hardly have colder days (below 0C) here even if the climate is colder than in LA. TBH the B-3 is still my dream shearling jacket as I simply like the overall design more than D-1 or B-6. An option could be a Coastal Command with the yellow hood (@MrProper thanks again....I now remember that I posted a comment in your jacket review thread during Summer when I wasn't thinking about a Shearling jacket and I hope you forgive me if I'm also considering this one...not yet decided).

lol no problem.
if you like the B3 better ... I've read that some manufacturers also make these with a shorter fur. maybe it's worth looking for.
If I liked the B3, I would have shawn make one with a short fur.

 

[ABCD]

What about John levers real Mccoy B3? https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/f-s-real-mccoys-roughwear-b3-size-42.102560/

@Robbie79 nevermind I just read that you've already spoken with John

 

[Robbie79]

What about John levers real Mccoy B3? https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/f-s-real-mccoys-roughwear-b3-size-42.102560/

Thanks Marc. I was talking to John already two or three days ago. THIS is my dream jacket but I'm not sure if 42 is too large and sleeves are too long 67cm (usually 64-65cm and my RMC size is 40 but I'm not sure if the thick shearling "compensates" this size difference). Moreover I'm not sure if it's too thick for our climate (same climate as you live in) and the fact that its used and price is still 850GBP which for sure is a really good and reasonable price for a RMC but on the other hand you get a new Aero (currently 4 months waiting time) for it or an almost new ELC....however the RMC looks better IMO (perhaps just better pictures). If I had a chance to compare the RMC, Aero, ELC B-3, ELC D-1 and Aero Coastal Command I suppose the decision would be easy. I also found a used B-3 RMC on Buyee in a probably similar, perhaps slightly better condition (4 days remaining, 600€ is current bid and I have to pay about 25% tax and duty). Tough decision and I don't want to wait too long.

 

[Tom71]

Thanks Marc. I was talking to John already two or three days ago. THIS is my dream jacket but I'm not sure if 42 is too large and sleeves are too long 67cm (usually 64-65cm and my RMC size is 40 but I'm not sure if the thick shearling "compensates" this size difference). Moreover I'm not sure if it's too thick for our climate (same climate as you live in) and the fact that its used and price is still 850GBP which for sure is a really good and reasonable price for a RMC but on the other hand you get a new Aero (currently 4 months waiting time) for it or an almost new ELC....however the RMC looks better IMO (perhaps just better pictures). If I had a chance to compare the RMC, Aero, ELC B-3, ELC D-1 and Aero Coastal Command I suppose the decision would be easy. I also found a used B-3 RMC on Buyee in a probably similar, perhaps slightly better condition (4 days remaining, 600€ is current bid and I have to pay about 25% tax and duty). Tough decision and I don't want to wait too long.

Robbie, just a word on "climate": I do have a Kaff-Racer in a medium weight shearling that I break out now and then when the weather is cold and dry (as it was this past weekend).
Shearling really is never too warm in a sense that polyester or even wool will be (think about the sheep having to wear their shearlings all year round...).
IMO it makes for great cold-protection but is also very forgiving in outside temps of up to 3-5 degrees cent (more layered over just a thin shirt...)

 

[ABCD]

Thanks Marc. I was talking to John already two or three days ago. THIS is my dream jacket but I'm not sure if 42 is too large and sleeves are too long 67cm (usually 64-65cm and my RMC size is 40 but I'm not sure if the thick shearling "compensates" this size difference). Moreover I'm not sure if it's too thick for our climate (same climate as you live in) and the fact that its used and price is still 850GBP which for sure is a really good and reasonable price for a RMC but on the other hand you get a new Aero (currently 4 months waiting time) for it or an almost new ELC....however the RMC looks better IMO (perhaps just better pictures). If I had a chance to compare the RMC, Aero, ELC B-3, ELC D-1 and Aero Coastal Command I suppose the decision would be easy. I also found a used B-3 RMC on Buyee in a probably similar, perhaps slightly better condition (4 days remaining, 600€ is current bid and I have to pay about 25% tax and duty). Tough decision and I don't want to wait too long.

I'm also eyeing that real Mccoys B3. But like you said... The jacket is probably way too warm to be able to get some good wear out of it in our not so cold climate.

I'm actually still wearing my summer jackets and it's December!

Maybe I should get a car with cooled seats instead of heated seats. Or a reindeer sleigh, I'm sure a reindeer sleigh will look great with a B3

 

[Carlos840]

Robbie, just a word on "climate": I do have a Kaff-Racer in a medium weight shearling that I break out now and then when the weather is cold and dry (as it was this past weekend).
Shearling really is never too warm in a sense that polyester or even wool will be (think about the sheep having to wear their shearlings all year round...).
IMO it makes for great cold-protection but is also very forgiving in outside temps of up to 3-5 degrees cent (more layered over just a thin shirt...)

Personally i am unable to wear a B3 in 3-5c without turning into the sweatiest man alive.
To me it has to be -5c to be able to wear one coomfortably, even 0c is not cold enough.
I have also been looking at John's B-3 and a part of me really wants it, but i have two B-3 jackets already and living between London and Bruxelles i have worn them maybe 10 days in the past 5 years, it just never gets cold enough.

I admit that if you go for a version with thinner shearling it will be more wearable, this Golden Bear for exampel is thin enough that i could wear it most of winter:

But once you go full B-3 fleece thickness (i think the body is 3/4" thick fleece) you need seriously cold weather to have any use from it.
At least that has been my experience as someone who runs somewhat warm.

 

[Robbie79]

Personally i am unable to wear a B3 in 3-5c without turning into the sweatiest man alive.
To me it has to be -5c to be able to wear one coomfortably, even 0c is not cold enough.
I have also been looking at John's B-3 and a part of me really wants it, but i have two B-3 jackets already and living between London and Bruxelles i have worn them maybe 10 days in the past 5 years, it just never gets cold enough.

I admit that if you go for a version with thinner shearling it will be more wearable, this Golden Bear for exampel is thin enough that i could wear it most of winter:

But once you go full B-3 fleece thickness (i think the body is 3/4" thick fleece) you need seriously cold weather to have any use from it.
At least that has been my experience as someone who runs somewhat warm.

@Carlos840 Thanks, Carlos. I totally agree with you. As much as I like this B-3 (basically from day 1 of my leather jacket passion I wanted a RMC B-3 for whatever reason...perhaps due to the fact that the RRP is really high and unaffordable for me), I have to admit that I would probably sweat in this jacket 360 of 365 days a year or even more

 

[red devil]

@Carlos840 Thanks, Carlos. I totally agree with you. As much as I like this B-3 (basically from day 1 of my leather jacket passion I wanted a RMC B-3 for whatever reason...perhaps due to the fact that the RRP is really high and unaffordable for me), I have to admit that I would probably sweat in this jacket 360 of 365 days a year or even more

Just book yourself holidays in the North of Sweden or Norway in Winter, that will easily justify the shearling

 

[Robbie79]

Ken Calder from Aero has just got back to me regarding my Coastal Command inquiry and his response was "The sheepskin wait time is close to 12 weeks but we do have another of our leather machinist converted to sheepskin so hopefully it won’t get any longer."
Moreover I've contacted Theodoros earlier this week (no response, yet) asking him about price for following B3 modified Shearling jacket as this one is not as thick as a regular B3 according to Theodoros and therefore more suitable for our Central European climate:

 

[ABCD]

Ken Calder from Aero has just got back to me regarding my Coastal Command inquiry and his response was "The sheepskin wait time is close to 12 weeks but we do have another of our leather machinist converted to sheepskin so hopefully it won’t get any longer."
Moreover I've contacted Theodoros earlier this week (no response, yet) asking him about price for following B3 modified Shearling jacket as this one is not as thick as a regular B3 according to Theodoros and therefore more suitable for our Central European climate:

I like the green sleeves and pocket on the Thedi.