Western, anyone?

[Yahoody]

New one...
https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29261806_10212510342688635_6527104358562136064_o.jpg?oh=384e56992caa189ba6f4d38d47b4a2b3&oe=5B3DBE69

 

[Mm25]

New one...
https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29261806_10212510342688635_6527104358562136064_o.jpg?oh=384e56992caa189ba6f4d38d47b4a2b3&oe=5B3DBE69

Love it. Would like to see it being worn!

 

[Moviehats]

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Smitty, of Colorado Mountain Hat Co, has done some western movie hats also. Most notably Robert Duvall, in Lonesome Dove. Can't remember others off hand.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13654386_1210672705619288_7142234567567667038_n.jpg?oh=cc3b8df12653660e341e7d791ca87e49&oe=5B3CAEDF
https://scontent-dfw5-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13680546_1210673095619249_1314861683355035401_n.jpg?oh=def327374f96cb8089984a8a3f0f25e2&oe=5B3B833E

itty, of Colorado Mountain Hat Co, has done some western movie hats also. Most notably Robert Duvall, in Lonesome Dove. Can't remember others off hand.

https://scontent-dfw5-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13654386_1210672705619288_7142234567567667038_n.jpg?oh=cc3b8df12653660e341e7d791ca87e49&oe=5B3CAEDF
https://scontent-dfw5-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13680546_1210673095619249_1314861683355035401_n.jpg?oh=def327374f96cb8089984a8a3f0f25e2&oe=5B3B833E

I believe the hats for "Lonesome Dove" were made by Texas Hatters.
http://www.texashatters.com/famousclientsfriends.html

 

[Yahoody]

Love it. Would like to see it being worn!

similar hat...same maker

https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14095773_10207939794587789_7947721275719587444_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a60598d969f051a1bc0b96f3eefb0ef1&oe=5B372814

 

[Retro Grouch]

I believe the hats for "Lonesome Dove" were made by Texas Hatters.
http://www.texashatters.com/famousclientsfriends.html

It may have been Open Range then. Haven't been there for a while.

 

[Desert dog]

similar hat...same maker

https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14095773_10207939794587789_7947721275719587444_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a60598d969f051a1bc0b96f3eefb0ef1&oe=5B372814

Cool photo!

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[Yahoody]

Cool photo!

I like this one as well.

https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23231273_10211553048196871_9000787437251574255_n.jpg?oh=ccba61f1af199c818efcbc0f604e08eb&oe=5B2A1320

 

[Desert dog]

I like this one as well.

https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23231273_10211553048196871_9000787437251574255_n.jpg?oh=ccba61f1af199c818efcbc0f604e08eb&oe=5B2A1320

That vest is nice! I like seeing these period outfits!

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[Hurricane Jack]

One hundred & two yrs ago today Thomas Coleman Younger died still carrying minie ball ammunition from the war & after in his body (accounts vary from 11 to 17). He is buried near his mother, & brothers Bob & Jim.

 

[Moviehats]

similar hat...same maker

https://scontent-sea1-1.**.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14095773_10207939794587789_7947721275719587444_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a60598d969f051a1bc0b96f3eefb0ef1&oe=5B372814

RJ Preston is a great hat maker (he also makes hats, but mostly Sombreros) and a great guy.

 

[hatophile]

One hundred & two yrs ago today Thomas Coleman Younger died still carrying minie ball ammunition from the war & after in his body (accounts vary from 11 to 17). He is buried near his mother, & brothers Bob & Jim.

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Given his history, it's amazing he made it to that age.

 

[Yahoody]

One hundred & two yrs ago today Thomas Coleman Younger died still carrying minie ball ammunition from the war & after in his body (accounts vary from 11 to 17). He is buried near his mother, & brothers Bob & Jim.

"Bleeding Kansas"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantrill's_Raiders

Like many today, I had family on both sides of that argument. Worth knowing some of the history.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

Given his history, it's amazing he made it to that age.

He & Frank James were such good friends even after Cole was a guest of the State of Minnesota for 22 yrs. After Cole was allowed to return to MO their friendship picked right back up where it had left off. Frank had stood trial 3 times & never convicted. After all they had experienced & gone thru they remained friends until the end. Frank had died at age 72 in Feb 1915, one yr before Cole.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

"Bleeding Kansas"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantrill's_Raiders

Like many today, I had family on both sides of that argument. Worth knowing some of the history.

Succession started because of the Morrill Tariff acts of 1860 & 1861. Without the Morrill Tariff slavery would likely have been abolished nationwide without succession & war. The South already accounted for 87% of all tariff revenues collected even before the Morrill Tariff. Furthermore 80% of all tariff revenues collected were being spent by the Federal gov't on Northern public works & industrial subsidies, enriching the North & bankrupting the South. Sounds like taxation without representation to me.

The first shots fired by the South starting the war were fired at Ft. Sumter. Ever wonder why Ft. Sumter? It was the collection point for the Morrill Tariff monies. That's just some of what they don't teach you in school.

This sums it up best:

http://www.thetribunepapers.com/201...uncivil-war-understanding-the-morrill-tariff/

 

[Desert dog]

Succession started because of the Morrill Tariff acts of 1860 & 1861. Without the Morrill Tariff slavery would likely have been abolished nationwide without succession & war. The South already accounted for 87% of all tariff revenues collected even before the Morrill Tariff. Furthermore 80% of all tariff revenues collected were being spent by the Federal gov't on Northern public works & industrial subsidies, enriching the North & bankrupting the South. Sounds like taxation without representation to me.

The first shots fired by the South starting the war were fired at Ft. Sumter. Ever wonder why Ft. Sumter? It was the collection point for the Morrill Tariff monies. That's just some of what they don't teach you in school.

This sums it up best:

http://www.thetribunepapers.com/201...uncivil-war-understanding-the-morrill-tariff/

Here is a good book, a lot of history. It covers many reasons for the successsion effort.

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[Bamaboots]

It’s “secession”

Nathaniel, I'm sure the "fellows" understand that it's not succession, but auto correct on some devices can be a *****.

As to the "cause" of the war. If their was a single definitive answer, there probably wouldn't be as much discussion and discourse about it as there is to this day.

 

[Nathaniel Finley]

Nathaniel, I'm sure the "fellows" understand that it's not succession, but auto correct on some devices can be a *****.

True enough BB. I actually deleted the comment... It’s past my bedtime and I’d like to just keep this about hats.

 

[Hurricane Jack]

I actually deleted the comment...

Sorry I missed the comment. I'm sure there was some fine schoolin' meant for me.

 

[glider]

actually in the federalist papers the states were told that they could secede if they chose to at some latter point in time. Of course the federalist papers were not an official document .

 

[Nathaniel Finley]

Sorry I missed the comment. I'm sure there was some fine schoolin' meant for me.

It just boggles my mind when I read statements like this (from the article you posted):

“Most Americans believe the U. S. “Civil War” was over slavery. They have to an enormous degree been miseducated.”

Maybe, but when it comes to the act of Secession itself slavery was such a foundation of Southern life that my forefathers did not attempt to hide it in any way, shape or form - they simply resigned from the Union and stated “SLAVERY” as the reason. And all my life I’ve heard my fellow Southern sons and daughters looking for any other explanations except slavery.

Following is the link I originally posted of the Secessionist Ordinances of five Confederate states. I don’t need any other resources whatsoever to tell me why they seceded. At all. Historical analysis? Unnecessary. The reasons for seceding are as plainly laid out as the Declararion of Independence.

https://www.civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states

My father is from Mississippi so I am most familiar with its Ordinance. Second paragragh highlights:

“Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world....There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union.”

Am I schooling anybody here? Probably not and I’m sure folks are gonna want to point out a hundred nuances and exceptions and various angles but to me the question is settled by these documents so far as Secession is concerned. Now why a common Southerner would actually go to war is a different story altogether.

That’s about all I want to say about this subject. The Civil War was too damn painful to spend any more of my day discussing. I’m going back to hats.

Best regards from Alabama.