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Ramblings of a mad man

AHP91

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There’s been a surprising amount of hate and criticism thrown my way for buying a few rare items, living with them, and then reselling them. The part that frustrates me is how detached that reaction is from how this hobby actually works. Any good find in this space comes from time invested, endless digging, and the inherent risk involved in buying anything online. That’s the reality for everyone.

What makes the backlash even stranger is that the collectors most vocal about it built their own archives through the exact same process. They’ve spent decades grabbing undervalued pieces the moment they appeared, buying multiples, and holding onto dozens of jackets that will likely never circulate again. The long-time Japanese collectors did the same years earlier — buying early, buying often, and locking in their grails before the market exploded. This isn’t a criticism; it’s simply how the landscape was shaped.

The topic of “giving back,” “reciprocating,” or “sharing deals” gets thrown around too, and that becomes another double standard. People engage with deals however they choose — some share, some don’t, and there’s never been one way to participate. I share when I have something meaningful to add. That’s the natural rhythm of any collecting hobby.

The broader point is this: the same behaviors that have always been normal among established collectors suddenly become a moral issue when someone newer does them. Risk-taking, buying undervalued pieces, testing them out, and moving them along afterward — that’s how almost every major collection in this space was built. It’s only framed negatively when someone without decades of tenure participates in the hunt.

I’m here for the same reasons everyone else started: to find interesting pieces, learn as I go, and participate in the hobby the way collectors before me always have. Everything else is noise.

The “old guard” will react as they do. This is meant for those who quietly care about the hobby and deserve space in it.

Also everyone should eat better and do more lower body work.
 

jeo

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The reason I stopped responding to you in the other thread is because it was like I was talking to a brick wall. Like you weren’t even reading what the criticism was about (which you actually admitted to lol)

My issue was your hypocrisy. Not the fact that you find deals and sell for a profit.

I’ll be as clear as I possibly can.

I have no issue with people wanting to get a deal. Everyone does.

I have no issue with people making money. I’ve made that clear time and time again.

In fact, I want people to sell their vintage jackets for as much money as they possibly can get. Every time a vintage jackets sells for a high amount, my collection goes up in value.

My issue with you was that when Marc brought it up, you were trying to act as if you don’t. That kind of hypocrisy boils my blood especially since you’ve acted in a way in the past that IMO is not in spirit with this community that I’ve spent over 15+ years being a part of is about. You’ve been an unwelcoming A hole to new members, accusing them of doing the very thing you do.

I’ll help anyone and everyone. So much so that I gladly give advice to newbies. Many long time members have issues with that. They say these newbies use our knowledge, list a jacket for super high and we never see them again. To me at least they’re transparent. We can see right through them.

Good try trying to flip this around.
 
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Jon Crow

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The reason I stopped responding to you in the other thread is because it was like I was talking to a brick wall. Like you weren’t even reading what the criticism was about (which you actually admitted to lol)

My issue was your hypocrisy. Not the fact that you find deals and sell for a profit.

I’ll be as clear as I possibly can.

I have no issue with people wanting to get a deal. Everyone does.

I have no issue with people making money. I’ve made that clear time and time again.

In fact, I want people to sell their vintage jackets for as much money as they possibly can get. Every time a vintage jackets sells for a high amount, my collection goes up in value.

My issue with you was that when Marc brought it up, you were trying to act as if you don’t. That kind of hypocrisy boils my blood especially since you’ve acted in a way in the past that IMO is not in spirit with this community that I’ve spent over 15+ years being a part of. You’ve been an unwelcoming A hole to new members, accusing them of doing the very thing you do.

I’ll help anyone and everyone. So much so that I gladly give advice to newbies. Many long time members have issues with that. They say these newbies use our knowledge, list a jacket for super high and we never see them again. To me at least they’re transparent. We can see right through them.

Good try trying to flip this around.
I know Jeo, before the end of his novel I was going to get the violin out :D
 

El Marro

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Also everyone should eat better and do more lower body work.
I don’t know about all the rest of it but finishing your post with this sentence just shows how truly out of touch you are with the jacket world. Jackets are worn on the upper body, and only on the upper body. A true jacket collector knows that all exercise must focus on the jacket bearing muscles, anything else is a waste of time.
 

AHP91

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The reason I stopped responding to you in the other thread is because it was like I was talking to a brick wall. Like you weren’t even reading what the criticism was about (which you actually admitted to lol)

My issue was your hypocrisy. Not the fact that you find deals and sell for a profit.

I’ll be as clear as I possibly can.

I have no issue with people wanting to get a deal. Everyone does.

I have no issue with people making money. I’ve made that clear time and time again.

In fact, I want people to sell their vintage jackets for as much money as they possibly can get. Every time a vintage jackets sells for a high amount, my collection goes up in value.

My issue with you was that when Marc brought it up, you were trying to act as if you don’t. That kind of hypocrisy boils my blood especially since you’ve acted in a way in the past that IMO is not in spirit with this community that I’ve spent over 15+ years being a part of. You’ve been an unwelcoming A hole to new members, accusing them of doing the very thing you do.

I’ll help anyone and everyone. So much so that I gladly give advice to newbies. Many long time members have issues with that. They say these newbies use our knowledge, list a jacket for super high and we never see them again. To me at least they’re transparent. We can see right through them.

Good try trying to flip this around.
I understand you have strong views on the community. You also mentioned that rising jacket prices benefit your collection, so I get that you’re coming from a different perspective than I am. I don’t own a hundred-plus jackets, so I’m not operating in the same realm of economic incentive as you and others with very large collections.

I buy some pieces below market, some above, and keep my collection tight without losing too much money. That’s really the whole picture for me.

As for the “members” you brought up — most of them had a single post asking what their jacket was worth and then disappeared. If helping those one-off accounts aligns with how you approach the hobby, and it also supports the rising value of your collection, then that makes sense from your perspective.

At the end of the day, I don’t think someone who owns a hundred plus jackets is going to see the hobby from the same angle I do — so I’m not expecting a realistic back-and-forth here.
 

AHP91

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I don’t know about all the rest of it but finishing your post with this sentence just shows how truly out of touch you are with the jacket world. Jackets are worn on the upper body, and only on the upper body. A true jacket collector knows that all exercise must focus on the jacket bearing muscles, anything else is a waste of time.
It was a joke my friend, I am headed to the gym and so I thought I could pass on something others (and myself) could benefit from.
 

Carlos840

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It was a joke my friend, I am headed to the gym and so I thought I could pass on something others (and myself) could benefit from.

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cbez

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I don't think you should be critical of ppl selling jackets when you flipped that car coat for 4k profit or whatever. Be consistent.

If you correctly id something as underpriced and want to flip it that's fine. You don't have to cloak it in 'collection management' like it's shameful. There's nothing wrong with selling a jacket.
 

Jonanah

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You’re all missing the point. There is only one valid purpose and drive for this hobby—one alone—and that is to get attention and validation from other men on the internet. Anything else, profits, engaging with living fragments of history, etc, is purely incidental.
 

tmitchell59

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You’re all missing the point. There is only one valid purpose and drive for this hobby—one alone—and that is to get attention and validation from other men on the internet. Anything else, profits, engaging with living fragments of history, etc, is purely incidental.
Ok, thanks. I had no idea what I was really doing. This really clears things up!
 

AHP91

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I don't think you should be critical of ppl selling jackets when you flipped that car coat for 4k profit or whatever. Be consistent.

If you correctly id something as underpriced and want to flip it that's fine. You don't have to cloak it in 'collection management' like it's shameful. There's nothing wrong with selling a jacket.
Truly don’t understand the hate toward buying an item that was underpriced, and then selling it for more after it was honestly too small for me. I truly bought it to keep as it was rare and underpriced.

In fact, that person received a high offer for that jacket after it had been sold, and told me they’re honoring the sale. That person just as easily could have cancelled on me, and that’s life. Wouldn’t have been the first time that happened to me.
 

AHP91

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You’re all missing the point. There is only one valid purpose and drive for this hobby—one alone—and that is to get attention and validation from other men on the internet. Anything else, profits, engaging with living fragments of history, etc, is purely incidental.
A lot of the vintage world is exactly that in this day and age, I’m afraid. I keep a small rotation of items that I genuinely like. What is the point of buying multiples of a jacket, jackets too valuable to wear, etc, if not to post on instagram and get a couple likes?
 

AHP91

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I don't know who you are or why you feel this way, I'm afraid, but my experience of the internet suggests that starting a thread about it probably won't achieve what you hope.
I’m well aware it’s fruitless to explain personal circumstances to strangers on the internet — especially when some of those strangers have a hundred jackets stacked in a spare room. We’re clearly approaching the hobby and life from very different places.

I question my own sanity in even posting my thoughts. Hence the mad man ramblings. You gotta have some fun
 

jeo

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I understand you have strong views on the community. You also mentioned that rising jacket prices benefit your collection, so I get that you’re coming from a different perspective than I am. I don’t own a hundred-plus jackets, so I’m not operating in the same realm of economic incentive as you and others with very large collections.

I buy some pieces below market, some above, and keep my collection tight without losing too much money. That’s really the whole picture for me.

As for the “members” you brought up — most of them had a single post asking what their jacket was worth and then disappeared. If helping those one-off accounts aligns with how you approach the hobby, and it also supports the rising value of your collection, then that makes sense from your perspective.

At the end of the day, I don’t think someone who owns a hundred plus jackets is going to see the hobby from the same angle I do — so I’m not expecting a realistic back-and-forth here.

Truly don’t understand the hate toward buying an item that was underpriced, and then selling it for more after it was honestly too small for me. I truly bought it to keep as it was rare and underpriced.

In fact, that person received a high offer for that jacket after it had been sold, and told me they’re honoring the sale. That person just as easily could have cancelled on me, and that’s life. Wouldn’t have been the first time that happened to me.

Again…a brick wall.

There’s no hate. His words to you were: “be consistent”

Jeez it’s like you’re not reading or you’re too dumb to understand what you’re reading. As such, yes, there will be no realistic back and forth. I’m talking apples, you’re talking oranges.

If you knew anything about this community, you’d know that these self indulgent, “poor me” type of threads never go well. And it’s NOT going well for you.

Want to continue digging the hole deeper?
 

Jon Crow

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A lot of the vintage world is exactly that in this day and age, I’m afraid. I keep a small rotation of items that I genuinely like. What is the point of buying multiples of a jacket, jackets too valuable to wear, etc, if not to post on instagram and get a couple likes?
Jackets too valuable to wear? That rules out the military collectors then who display on mannequins, we all like to wear a jacket as this group is what it's about but not everyone does, as for not wearing it and posting on Instagram for a couple of likes, you underestimate the amount of military collectable and antique vintage groups who have more than just a couple of likes, try thousands, your back to flipping again, as you said you keep a small portion
 

AbbaDatDeHat

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You’re all missing the point. There is only one valid purpose and drive for this hobby—one alone—and that is to get attention and validation from other men on the internet. Anything else, profits, engaging with living fragments of history, etc, is purely incidental.
Speaking for other “men” about anything, anywhere is boyish and not incidental but you go with that.
YMMV
B
 

AHP91

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Again…a brick wall.

There’s no hate. His words to you were: “be consistent”

Jeez it’s like you’re not reading or you’re too dumb to understand what you’re reading. As such, yes, there will be no realistic back and forth. I’m talking apples, you’re talking oranges.

If you knew anything about this community, you’d know that these self indulgent, “poor me” type of threads never go well. And it’s NOT going well for you.

Want to continue digging the hole deeper?
As fugazi said, you are not what you own.

You are on the inside, and I’m on the outside. Perfectly fine by me. It always struck me as odd as how often the biggest collectors, with the most to lose, are usually the ones who seem most aggravated with those who just don’t care enough on that level.
 

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