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Pocket Knife

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I watched youtube.
The Craftsman pocket knife's package finally says "stainless steel".
Probably cheapest 420, surely not 420HC or 440A. As so many "rescue knives" with serrated and black coated blades on the german market still have.
But what to do with such a knife, rather than maybe cutting cardboard? It's just like a rescue knife, but not a versatile pocket knife.
 
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Peacoat

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A $10 knife is not supposed to be your primary tool. Or I could have that all wrong. I've heard other people say that your backup should just as good, if not better. Because you're reaching for it when you really need it.
I've heard that quote applied to the backup weapon a uniformed officer carries, but I suppose it could be applied to a back up knife as well. Probably not, however, with the same urgency.
 

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I understand why they're popular and don't dispute it, but that to me is not a Buck 110.
I only say this because it's not a 110 blade and only shares the frame shape
I have been saying this since the slim series was released though, neither the 110 or 112 have the right blades and think they should have a different model number.
I know it's arbitrary semantics, but as a major Buck knives fan and a traditionalist it bugs me.

I'm not familiar with these particular items, but I am very familiar with the concept (Levis 501s, among other items in my case). It seems to me the problem arises when the model number is established as one thing, but then becomes fashionable or desirable (such as Levis 501s), and the manufacturer reacts by turning what was once a specific delineation of fit or design into a brand, the result being that consistency disappears and the original purpose of a model name or number is lost. I suppose we're all well used to that with cars (the Ford Cortina had five versions across its two-decade lifespan, each quite different from the previous version), but it's much more frustrating with something like a knife or a pair of jeans when you go looking for one thing and discover it has changed in an often unexpected, and unpleasing, manner.
 

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I've heard that quote applied to the backup weapon a uniformed officer carries, but I suppose it could be applied to a back up knife as well. Probably not, however, with the same urgency.

Reminds me of the time I first learned a particularly horrific truth about the trenches in the Great War. Most assume, as I had, that the bayonet was a weapon of last resort, after ******s are exhausted. Of course, as I learned back when, the ****** was the last resort: once in an enemy trench, the bayonet is the primary weapon. That, and an array of home-made trench weapons for close-quarter, hand to hand. Seeing a display of those in the IWM was the most chilling lesson I've ever had about the sheer brutality of that conflict.
 

rogueclimber

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What a very elegant piece of sporting cutlery Capt. Rob, beautiful proportions.

Thank you, when I received this knife I was a bit surprised at how large it was so I had to joke a bit in this "pocket knife" thread

But John Gonzalez, Dervish Knives, makes some beautiful, easier to pocket knives too:

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The small fixed blades are his Silverfish model and are easy to throw in a pocket
 

TLW '90

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I'm not familiar with these particular items, but I am very familiar with the concept (Levis 501s, among other items in my case). It seems to me the problem arises when the model number is established as one thing, but then becomes fashionable or desirable (such as Levis 501s), and the manufacturer reacts by turning what was once a specific delineation of fit or design into a brand, the result being that consistency disappears and the original purpose of a model name or number is lost. I suppose we're all well used to that with cars (the Ford Cortina had five versions across its two-decade lifespan, each quite different from the previous version), but it's much more frustrating with something like a knife or a pair of jeans when you go looking for one thing and discover it has changed in an often unexpected, and unpleasing, manner.
Exactly.
It's like that new vehicle that Ford is calling a mustang.
It's one of those things that's not a sedan minivan or SUV, but I haven't figured out what they're supposed to be called.


At least in the case with this particular Buck knife it shares the frame shape and has the same silhouette when it's closed.
 

大馬伕

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For $30, I am ready to try the plastic Buck. My problem is that knives get lost. I hate losing expensive knives.
 

TLW '90

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Shoulder bags, it's that easy.
If your knife is in a bag instead of on your person you're not really carrying it, and when you put that bag down you're no longer carrying a knife and you might as well not even have it.

This is just my philosophy though, this Monday I actually did the unthinkable and forgot my pocket organizer at home meaning I forgot my pocket knife for the 1st time in at least a decade and I felt entirely lost all day.
I literally felt a pit in my stomach from not having a pocket knife in my pocket, but it was more than just my pocket knife though because I was also missing my pen and pliers and other things.
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Fifty150

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what to do with such a knife


In this part of the world, they still wrap laundry and food in paper, or put it in a box, and tie it with twine. The serrated blade is good for cutting the twine. I also get food in net bags. Mostly produce and shellfish. The serrated blade is good for that as well. Large items on pallets are often wrapped in plastic, then strapped. The serrated knife teeth works. Not to mention all of the cardboard boxes that Amazon sends out.​


the backup weapon a uniformed officer carries,


I never carried one. Shear luck. I never needed it. The car is equipped with a *******, a *****, and a less lethal projectile launcher. In my gear bag, in the trunk of the car, there was an extra of everything. Including an extra ******. But I never carried a backup on my person. I've seen a few situations where those were more of a liability than an asset. Primary sidearms are in security holsters; so that they can't fall out, and someone can't easily take it away from you. Other types of holsters, or simply in your pocket: you don't have the same level of retention. Assuming that nobody takes it away from you, it could simply fall out while you're running, climbing a wall, or engaging a resisting suspect.​


Shoulder bags,


Maybe. Not everyone carries a bag. Not everyone can carry a bag, depending on what they are doing. I can only imagine the ridicule and laughter on a job site, when a construction worker is wearing a purse.


I've lost them because I set it down and forget. No bag could help that.
 
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Just as sidenote:
I personally would not buy any folder knife or bushcraft knife with 1.4116 stainless steel, equally how interesting the knife looks.
It's the standard german kitchen knife steel, but I would expect a strong steel from a strong bushcraft knife or EDC. At least versatile 440C.
 

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