Lost Worlds, what is the difference between Buco j23 and j24?

[realfreddy]

I asked Stuart and he said "only the extensive handwork, bespoke parts & labor, separate J23 from J 24. Otherwise, same jacket. And belt is included in J23 price, not in J24."

I didn't want to be annoying so I didn't ask him to elaborate. Anybody know?

 

[ton312]

He answered the question you asked. Those are the only differences.

 

[realfreddy]

He answered the question you asked. Those are the only differences.

Ok so it's just got better parts and he works harder on it?

 

[ton312]

Have you looked at the jackets? One is bedazzled with stones, etc and one is not. The bedazzled version is more expensive…Because it’s bedazzled and bedazzling takes time. That’s it. If you want to be shiny, get the bedazzled j-24. If not, get the j-23. I had two j-23’s. The stones did not do it for me and I didn’t want the belt.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

Not exactly the hardest round of “spot the difference” I’ve played

J24


J23

 

[realfreddy]

Not exactly the hardest “spot the difference” game I’ve played

Perfect comparison, I had no idea the J24 also could have the D-Pocket. I really appreciate this! Thanks. I understand now.

 

[bigmanbigtruck]

Tbh, I thought you were trolling. But if you wanna see pics of his jackets, they’re on his website here

There’s some other D-pocket jackets if that’s your thing.

 

[realfreddy]

Tbh, I thought you were trolling. But if you wanna see pics of his jackets, they’re on his website here

There’s some other D-pocket jackets if that’s your thing.

Yeah, I have visited it a ton, I am deciding between Speed Demon, j24, and Trojan, although Trojan doesn't have the little fastener things on the triangular parts of the jacket that attach it to the body to keep your jacket from flapping in the wind while riding, so it's probably just between Speed Demon and J24 now. Speed doesn't have the D pocket and the belt is not detached in the same way that an added option J24 belt is, HOWEVER this one specific picture of the Speed Demon looks a lot cooler than most of the j-24 pictures on the J24 page so I will have to keep pondering between these two, but due to the previously mentioned I might be leaning towards j24 personally.

 

[AeroFan_07]

Back in 2020, I created the following thread after receiving a new-to-me LW J23 (well, at the time it was still called the J23).
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/lost-worlds-j23-version-2-0.101368/

Since then, sometime around 2024, Stuart flipped the nomenclature on his website regarding the J23 & J24. Prior to this time, he listed them as:
--J23 - plain D-pocket cross zip, that came with a snap-off fur collar, belt was an option.
--J24 - same D-pocket design cross-zip, also with snap-off fur collar, but studded belt and studded details were standard. as his website clearly indicates, it takes a lot more time to build the Studded version, and the studs he uses are of high quality.

In 2024 - these were reversed. Now the J23 is the studded, J24 is not. They have always been D-pocket cross-zip jackets. He must have learned that the original Buco jackets were actually designated that way. To me it's just quite confusing. I personally would have simply left them as-is, since many customers just knew them by the original designation.

These jackets are a serious investment, if you decide they are for you, hope we can see some photos of it after you receive it.

 

[realfreddy]

Since then, sometime around 2024, Stuart flipped the nomenclature on his website regarding the J23 & J24. Prior to this time, he listed them as:

so THAT's why the J23's page is listed as the J24 in the URL and vice versa!

These jackets are a serious investment, if you decide they are for you, hope we can see some photos of it after you receive it.

Yeah, I am in college right now (I'm 20 years old) but for being in their honor program my dad has very graciously promised to get me a LW jacket as my combined christmas/birthday gift (Birthday is early january) so I should buy it around September and receive it around December. I'm really grateful, because they are really expensive. I already have been saving up my money for a motorcycle (to be bought once I'm out of college).

it takes a lot more time to build the Studded version

Yeah, I bet. I have a (admittedly extremely cheap and bottom of the barrel) fashion jacket rn and it takes me a while to stud and put my own additions into that without making it look like dog****. I can't imagine how long it will take to stud a thick jacket, but I'm planning to figure out. I'm either going 4.5 or 5 oz, whatever the thickest is offered for the j24, and then wear it every day to break it in.