Help with {date or identify} a hat please.....!

[milandro]

or use a common paper tape measure as the ones from Ikea and some double sided tape

 

[Frunobulax]

or use a common paper tape measure as the ones from Ikea and some double sided tape

I wouldn't trust that. Too much opportunity for bad measurements.

Unless you have a sizing ring.

 

[belfastboy]

I wouldn't trust that. Too much opportunity for bad measurements.

Unless you have a sizing ring.

Yes, selling a hat and listing a size that may not be accurate is just asking for headaches. I have sent a number of Ebay purchases back as they guesstimated the size in the listing without stating it was a 'guess'.

 

[Lori G]

 

[deadlyhandsome]

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It’s a modern era Stetson made by a company who bought the rights to the Stetson name years after Stetson went out of business and stopped making hats. The brim binding and crown ribbon/band along with the “orange” last drop liner make me suspect 1980s, but it could be later, and it really can’t be any earlier.

It looks to be a good daily wear hat, but it really isn’t very valuable on the used/vintage market.

 

[Lori G]

It’s a modern era Stetson made by a company who bought the rights to the Stetson name years after Stetson went out of business and stopped making hats. The brim binding and crown ribbon/band along with the “orange” last drop liner make me suspect 1980s, but it could be later, and it really can’t be any earlier.

It looks to be a good daily wear hat, but it really isn’t very valuable on the used/vintage market.

Thank you. That's exactly the info I was looking for.

 

[Yorkshire Lad]

Hat from EBay UK
Appears to have never been worn
Require confirmation that information I have found on this site regarding this hat is correct.
Resistol Roundup Collection R145 Gila under brand name of Kevin McAndrew. Sold by Sakowitz Dept Stores for $55.00.
Size 7,1/2 shrunk to 7,3/8 which fits perfectly.
Ref branding iron B R motif - Byer Rolnick and
Brown Sweat band dates the hat to before 1968?
Years of manufacture?
How expensive was a $55 hat in the 1960’s
Is this made from wool or other?
Why no indication as to the actual material used?
Many thanks

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Hat from EBay UK
Appears to have never been worn
Require confirmation that information I have found on this site regarding this hat is correct.
Resistol Roundup Collection R145 Gila under brand name of Kevin McAndrew. Sold by Sakowitz Dept Stores for $55.00.
Size 7,1/2 shrunk to 7,3/8 which fits perfectly.
Ref branding iron B R motif - Byer Rolnick and
Brown Sweat band dates the hat to before 1968?
Years of manufacture?
How expensive was a $55 hat in the 1960’s
Is this made from wool or other?
Why no indication as to the actual material used?
Many thanks

I think it’s a 1970s hat made after Byer-Rolnick sold out. I also think it’s a fur felt hat without any wool constant. A US size 7 ½ is a UK size 7 ⅜ so depending on which measurements you are using it might not have shrunk.

There are several online inflation calculators if you know the year and the original price. The year makes a lot of difference as inflation was rampant then.

 

[belfastboy]

I think it’s a 1970s hat made after Byer-Rolnick sold out. I also think it’s a fur felt hat without any wool constant. A US size 7 ½ is a UK size 7 ⅜ so depending on which measurements you are using it might not have shrunk.

There are several online inflation calculators if you know the year and the original price. The year makes a lot of difference as inflation was rampant then.

Yep in 1982-83 I had a 16.5% mortgage!!!

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Yep in 1982-83 I had a 16.5% mortgage!!!

Ouch! That hurts.

I live in a city where the median family income is $49,000 and the median home price is over $400,000…I still can’t figure that out. I keep thinking a big market correction is coming but it hasn’t come so far.

 

[Yorkshire Lad]

I think it’s a 1970s hat made after Byer-Rolnick sold out. I also think it’s a fur felt hat without any wool constant. A US size 7 ½ is a UK size 7 ⅜ so depending on which measurements you are using it might not have shrunk.

There are several online inflation calculators if you know the year and the original price. The year makes a lot of difference as inflation was rampant then.

Thanks for reply. Found this info from a post dated 2005 - The brown sweatbands are usually the older models. The black sweatbands are from the 1960s and newer
Regards

 

[deadlyhandsome]

Thanks for reply. Found this info from a post dated 2005 - The brown sweatbands are usually the older models. The black sweatbands are from the 1960s and newer
Regards

There are so many exceptions to this. As a general rule, this is accurate, but it’s not a sure thing across brands or even within a brand. Many hats made after the 1960s, including Resistols, have brown sweatbands. There are also some hats from far earlier than the 1960s that have black sweatbands; however, they are more common on hats made outside the US.

I believe the Roundup first appeared in the 1970s, and the $55 price also supports a 1970s or ‘80s date. I don’t see anything that puts it in the Byer-Rolnick era.

 

[Yorkshire Lad]

There are so many exceptions to this. As a general rule, this is accurate, but it’s not a sure thing across brands or even within a brand. Many hats made after the 1960s, including Resistols, have brown sweatbands. There are also some hats from far earlier than the 1960s that have black sweatbands; however, they are more common on hats made outside the US.

I believe the Roundup first appeared in the 1970s, and the $55 price also supports a 1970s or ‘80s date. I don’t see anything that puts it in the Byer-Rolnick era.

Thanks again for the additional info. Nothing is ever clear cut. With ref to the image of the branding iron showing the letters B R, I have also seen images of the branding iron with the letters R R. Any significance to this?

 

[georgie girl]

Looking to get an idea on the date of this 5x beaver resistol hat, that unfortunately doesn't have a liner to help out. I'm thinking 50's, but haven't had much experience with Resistol tags that it has which is a pen sticker 4258, and 3 numbers on the other tag: 484 (which I think is the block of the San Antonio model), 103926, and the size. Measurements are 2.75" brim and something like 5.5" oc. I did figure out the well worn original seller which was the Amarillo, TX Hub Clothiers, but they were around for quite a while including the 50's & 60's

All I can say about the felt is that it is softer (nicer) than my early 40's Dobbs Twenty (westward)

Sorry for the ****py cell phone photos and thanks for any help, cheers!

 

[Louis Mountbatten]

With the lettering printed on the sweat and that type of paper size label pasted inside, it seems like 1960s to me.

 

[roadtripster]

Can you identify this one for me? What kind of hat is the clarinetist ("Craig Flory" on the left) wearing? Thank you

 

[wsmontana]

Can you identify this one for me? What kind of hat is the clarinetist ("Craig Flory" on the left) wearing? Thank you

 

[Louis Mountbatten]

Sort of looks like just a regular Open Road-style straw with a cattleman's crease.

 

[roadtripster]

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Oh, that was quick and easy. Thank you

 

[roadtripster]

Sort of looks like just a regular Open Road-style straw with a cattleman's crease.

Thank you