Help! Quick opinion on Kreosote boots.

[Brandrea33]

There is no way this thing doesn't blow up. There are established means for a custom operation to operate sustainably; he not only does not follow these methods but takes pride in blowing them off. He could right the ship by taking these steps but incorrectly sees them as compromise.

(Typed this yesterday before Edward's message though I think it still holds.)


This example is an interesting one because a a bespoke shirtmaker of whom red devil and I have recently become customers was a stand-up comic in London in the 60s then decided to train up as a shirtmaker as a more stable job. When you do it right, craft is sustainable. The issue is that this Gabbard character takes pride in not having apprentices and otherwise not using traditional practices, seeing them as compromise. It's particularly silly given that it's not like apprentices are doing the work for customers' orders! They're gathering materials and working on logistics while the master craftsman drafts things (ideally freehand). And once they learn the process they can strike out on their own.

My own regret is that I didn't find a way to apprentice with a tailor instead of going to university.



To me this is a bit damning. All of this emphasis on customisation and perfect fit but it's not even a custom last? Why on earth would someone go with him over Julian?

For that matter you can have Springline make you a bespoke last and then there are a fair few RTW companies in the UK that are willing to use your Springline last to make you shoes and boots!



I really do owe him an email. We had a great hour long phone conversation a year ago when I wanted to buy one of the vintage coats on sale at his site and the man was a gem to speak with. I was going to follow up but have had the draft sitting half complete for a year.

He’s in the process of renovating his house, so his time is pretty limited at the moment.

You’re right, he’s an absolute pleasure to speak with.

 

[Bfd70]

Would NEVER make an order with him but did have the chance to meet him this weekend and he was a gentleman and interesting. He was wearing a prototype of the jacket collab he did with Field leathers and i believe it to be superior to similarly priced jackets from the Japanese market.

 

[Aloysius]

Honestly I would rather he act like an ******e while not running a **** than running a **** while being polite.

 

[Aloysius]

… why was this censored? I didn’t use any curse words and it looks like I was cursing him out when I was using a (non vulgar) term that means dishonest business practice.

 

[Zoro]

… why was this censored? I didn’t use any curse words and it looks like I was cursing him out when I was using a (non vulgar) term that means dishonest business practice.

There's a new autocorrect/autocensor feature wreaking havoc.

 

[El Marro]

… why was this censored? I didn’t use any curse words and it looks like I was cursing him out when I was using a (non vulgar) term that means dishonest business practice.

Yep, I totally filled in the blanks where the words were censored and you can bet I went heavy!!

 

[Aloysius]

Yep, I totally filled in the blanks where the words were censored and you can bet I went heavy!!

Hell, I filled in the blanks when I saw my own message like that!

 

[ABCD]

Hell

Thank God we're still allowed to say hell lol

 

[AbbaDatDeHat]

Welp….i guess it’s time for us to create our own key of censored words so we know what we can and can’t say since the star bot seems to speak a different language.
I suppose we’ll have to list our most foul and vulgar examples to test snd establish the key of no speaks.

Or…just disappear the mo********king bot b**ch.
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[livioli]

these will look goofy with a suit

42 months is insane. think about your taste 4 years ago...do you want the same things now?

Hey man you were right haha . My taste has indeed changed and now I want to get a refund …

 

[livioli]

Hey guys, quick update to this thread. My taste has indeed changed now, which is why I am posting this message.

I contacted Gabbard to ask for a refund but he refused, rightfully so. (No refund policy) however, he gave me the idea of selling my place in the queue to someone else. I imagine the waitlist is even longer now! (Edit: wait time is 4.5 years now)

I placed the order for the Kreosote 7 on Feb 6, 2024. My Boot Order is 28 months into a 42 month Wait List so there’s still have 14 more months before your boot goes into build rotation.

If anyone is interested in the spot, please let me know!

 

[Observe]

That wait time is absurd. I wish you luck in selling your spot.

 

[Zoro]

That wait time is absurd

And unguaranteed...

 

[Observe]

And unguaranteed...

There's no way I could commit to maybe getting a pair of boots at some point in the next half-decade or so, money up front. If he can't do a sensible lead time he should stop taking orders (and people's money).