Gable vs. Bogart

[Peaceful John]

Bogart, with his greater substance, of course.

 

[HadleyH]

Bogie. His screen persona comes across as tough, street-smart, down-to-earth, and cool. And the way he wore a Fedora . . . :arated:

Nothing wrong with the way Gable wore his fedora either! Let's be fair here!

 

[Brian Sheridan]

Nothing wrong with the way Gable wore his fedora either! Let's be fair here!

Right on Hadley! Gable was great at wearing fedoras (not so much at undershirts). I think we forget that because his biggest films were period (or set in a non-city local) where he wasn't in modern dress (GTTW, Mutiny on the Bounty, Red Dust.) Whenever he played a reporter (It Happened One Night) or editor, he looked sharp in a fedora and patch pocket coats.

 

[Carlisle Blues]

I was going to choose Gable because I just don't get the Bogart thing, but in the book "The Fixers: Eddie Mannix, Howard Strickling and the MGM Publicity Machine" by E. J. Fleming, Gable is portrayed as a crybaby. His biographer Lynn Tornabene echos this sentiment in "Long Live The King: A Biography of Clark Gable [UNABRIDGED]".

Look at this he needs someone to wipe his tears away.

I think I will abstain on this one. I am so confused

 

[SweetieStarr]

Forgive me if I'm being a kill-joy, but I find it hard to compare the two. Bogie was mostly Mr. Film Noir (except for films like Sabrina and later ones like African Queen, etc.) and he did what he did exceptionally well. Gable was more of a romance, western, etc. guy, and did what he did exceptionally well. However, I can't imagine Bogie as Rhett Butler or many of Gable's characters, nor Gable as Bogie's characters.

They were both manly, tough men, but in different ways. They both made women swoon and made men want to BE them.

 

[Macheath]

Oh, always the cool and unflappable one, Mr. Bogart.


Sure, Gable was always big shot Mr. Suave, but who could resist Humphrey Bogart's lisp?

 

[cgab1]

I would pick Gable - both were bigger than life, but Gable was a giant among giants......

 

[Carlisle Blues]

They were both manly, tough men, but in different ways. They both made women swoon and made men want to BE them.

I do not want to BE either one of them. I am living and breathing they are not.

Robert Mitchum was clearly more manly and much tougher then either one of them. For that matter Don Knotts had them both beat in that department as well.

 

[crazydaisy]

I'm a Bogart girl. In spite of the photo above.

 

[John in Covina]

Clark Gable - Captain, US Army Air Corps. Although beyond draft age, Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the Air Corps on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles. He attended Officers' Candidate School at Miami Beach and graduated as a second lieutenant. He then attended aerial ***nery school and in Feb. 1943, on personal orders from Gen. Arnold, went to England to make a motion picture of aerial ***ners in action. He was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook and although neither ordered nor expected to do so, flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s to obtain the combat film footage he believed was required for producing the movie entitled "Combat America." Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over age for combat. [Source: US Air Force museum]

 

[Carlisle Blues]

Robert Mitchum: was picked up for vagrancy and sent to join a chain gang in the Savannah swamplands, then certainly during the Depression era when he lived the hobo life, riding the rails across country from coast to coast with the aristocracy of the road.

Mitchum worked the punch-press at a Toledo factory in 1936 and he'd toked when shaping steel for Lockheed. Tough guy..:eusa_clap http://www.ukcia.org/potculture/49/mitchum.html

Don Knotts: Veteran of the Second World War who was awarded the World War II Victory Medal, Philippine Liberation Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal (with 4 bronze service stars), Army Good Conduct Medal, Marksman Badge (with Carbine Bar) and Honorable Service Lapel Pin.

Served in the Army of the United States, under the service number 35 756 363, from June 21, 1943 to January 6, 1946. Discharged in the rank of Technician Grade 5, which was the equivalent of a Corporal. Toughest of em all...:eusa_clap :eusa_clap

 

[Widebrim]

Robert Mitchum: was picked up for vagrancy and sent to join a chain gang in the Savannah swamplands, then certainly during the Depression era when he lived the hobo life, riding the rails across country from coast to coast with the aristocracy of the road.

Mitchum worked the punch-press at a Toledo factory in 1936 and he'd toked when shaping steel for Lockheed. Tough guy..:eusa_clap http://www.ukcia.org/potculture/49/mitchum.html

Yeah, and he supposedly wrote his own discharge papers while in the Army...

 

[Tomasso]

he supposedly wrote his own discharge papers

But could he see through all that smoke.

 

[Widebrim]

Clark Gable - Captain, US Army Air Corps. Although beyond draft age, Clark Gable enlisted as a private in the Air Corps on Aug. 12, 1942 at Los Angeles. He attended Officers' Candidate School at Miami Beach and graduated as a second lieutenant. He then attended aerial ***nery school and in Feb. 1943, on personal orders from Gen. Arnold, went to England to make a motion picture of aerial ***ners in action. He was assigned to the 351st Bomb Group at Polebrook and although neither ordered nor expected to do so, flew operational missions over Europe in B-17s to obtain the combat film footage he believed was required for producing the movie entitled "Combat America." Gable returned to the U.S. in Oct. 1943 and was relieved from active duty as a major on Jun. 12, 1944 at his own request, since he was over age for combat. [Source: US Air Force museum]

I have always admired Gable for the above. Now, as far as Bogart is concerned, he served in WWI with the USN, although most of his service was after the Armistice.

 

[Widebrim]

Don Knotts: Veteran of the Second World War who was awarded the World War II Victory Medal, Philippine Liberation Medal, Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal (with 4 bronze service stars), Army Good Conduct Medal, Marksman Badge (with Carbine Bar) and Honorable Service Lapel Pin.

Served in the Army of the United States, under the service number 35 756 363, from June 21, 1943 to January 6, 1946. Discharged in the rank of Technician Grade 5, which was the equivalent of a Corporal. Toughest of em all...:eusa_clap :eusa_clap

Well, according to sources including Snopes, IMDb, Movies.MSN.com, Wikipedia, Biography.com, and Answers.com, Knotts did serve in the Pacific, but with the Army's Special Services Branch, entertaining troops; he saw no combat. Neither was he a Marine Corps. Drill Instructor, as has been spread on the Internet.

 

[Carlisle Blues]

Well, according to sources including Snopes, IMDb, Movies.MSN.com, Wikipedia, Biography.com, and Answers.com, Knotts did serve in the Pacific, but with the Army's Special Services Branch, entertaining troops; he saw no combat. Neither was he a Marine Corps. Drill Instructor, as has been spread on the Internet.

I realize that but he was not some Hollywood "name" that was catapulted into the lime light. I'll take the regular guy any day over a manufactured tough guy.

We all have a purpose, I just have a difficult celebrating the imagery. [huh]

Just my 2 cts.

 

[WH1]

Gotta go with Bogart over Gable. If only for the fact that Sinatra, Garland, Niven, Romanoff, Noel Coward and Dino all chose to hang with him. Plus Gable always struck me as a cardboard cutout. But greatly prefer Grant to either.

fftopic: And if we are discussing war time service Jimmy Stewart, Charles Durning(Silver Star, 3 purple hearts), Lee Marvin(Marine, wounded severely on Saipan) and Edward (Green Acres) Albert(Bronze Star on Tarawa, esteemed by the Marine Corps), and last but not least Henry Fonda (Navy, Bronze Star) all stand far above most.

 

[WH1]

Gotta go with Bogart over Gable. If only for the fact that Sinatra, Garland, Niven, Romanoff, Noel Coward and Dino all chose to hang with him. Plus Gable always struck me as a cardboard cutout. But greatly prefer Grant to either.

fftopic: And if we are discussing war time service Jimmy Stewart(2 Distinguished Flying Crosses, 4 Air Medals and the Croix De Guerre), Charles Durning(Silver Star, 3 purple hearts), Lee Marvin(Marine, wounded severely on Saipan) and Edward (Green Acres) Albert(Bronze Star on Tarawa, esteemed by the Marine Corps), and last but not least Henry Fonda (Navy, Bronze Star) all stand far above most.

 

[FinalVestige79]

Yeah, and he supposedly wrote his own discharge papers while in the Army...

Robert Mitchum was drafted and oddly enough served at Ft. Mac Arthur.

 

[Widebrim]

I realize that but he was not some Hollywood "name" that was catapulted into the lime light. I'll take the regular guy any day over a manufactured tough guy.

We all have a purpose, I just have a difficult celebrating the imagery. [huh]

Just my 2 cts.

I can agree on that...