Bumping Question

[Harris HTM]

If he had posted in one of my sections, and I noticed it, I would have deleted his posts. Best to report that type of activity, and we will deal with it.

Send me a PM with the user name, and I will look into it.

If you individually look at his posts then I honestly cannot report them since I don't think he breaks any forum rules. I just reacted to one of his meaningless posts, let's see how he reacts first.


Edit Note by Peacoat: I figured out who you were talking about. He has been on my watch list for a few days now. I deleted a post or two of his, but the others were arguably bona fide posts, even though it was obvious what he was doing. PC

 

[Peacoat]

How often can a thread be bumped?

Thanks in advance for your reply

No Bumping or Cross-posting topics. Bumping is posting to move a thread up on the forum list

If you individually look at his posts then I honestly cannot report them since I don't think he breaks any forum rules. I just reacted to one of his meaningless posts, let's see how he reacts first.

Not asking you to report him at this point. Just send me his user name in a PM, and I will look into it.

 

[tamoko]

Without bumping people will be realist items. This will be just duplicate data and make database heavy. But bumping every week doesn't make sense to. If you can't scale at this price drop or tray to sale later. Other point, many sold items still not delited, this even after one Year.

 

[RDS]

I’ve never bought or sold anything via the FL Classifieds, so wouldn’t be particularly bothered if it didn’t exist; however, I can see that in its intended form it can be useful for ‘genuine’ members to move on the occasional item that might genuinely be excess to requirements.

But there now seems to be too many who are only joining the FL with the main intention to just sell. They may dress it up with some altruistic excuse about it really being for the benefit of the ‘nice’ people on here, however the main reason they’ve joined the forum is to take advantage of it, because it’s free to sell and they don’t have to pay any selling fees or commission.

I’m sure that most of the ‘nice’ people on here are more than familiar with all the various online auction and classified sites, and regardless of whatever they are interested in, whether it be jackets, boots, hats, etc. they’ll probably find the items if listed for sale there, although, that, of course, means that there a cost will be incurred by the sellers.

 

[Peacoat]

Without bumping people will be realist items. This will be just duplicate data and make database heavy. But bumping every week doesn't make sense to. If you can't scale at this price drop or tray to sale later. Other point, many sold items still not delited, this even after one Year.

We have asked that sold items not be deleted for historical reasons. Just note on the listing that the item has been Sold.

 

[Pandemic]

I appreciate sold items remaining here as a historic listing. It’s useful as a record of a particular item (more pics of vintage jackets in the archive) as well as the rough value.

But with our bumping the items still available occasionally, they all get mixed together in pages and pages of old listings. I’d rather just skim the first 3-4 pages to see what is new and still available.

My rough rule of bumping would be to allow a bump every 1-2 weeks with a maximum or 3-4. Beyond that point I think everyone has seen the listing and you’ve had enough time to drop the price to a point where you’ll get a buyer.

 

[Ribdoner]

iirc bumping was allowed, however, not more than every 48 hrs

what's to stop alt/duplicate accounts or, in some cases, buddies via "questions" bumping threads?

 

[Lukken]

Hmm! So, the person who made 20 very short, pointless posts in the space of about 15 minutes in an effort to circumvent the ‘20 Posts in Open Forums’ selling rule is now wanting to get one of the other rules on selling changed ?

Can Someone help me with Posts?

I have made more than 20 posts but my sale posts keep getting taken down. Please help.

www.thefedoralounge.com

Meow. As you can see from this thread, it's not just me who wants the rule changed.

 

[BarryMcCockiner_PhD]

does not make any sense. Not bumping creates a bottleneck and at times will duplicate posts/data. I can understand limiting to every **hours but zero carve out will go against the spirit of the classifieds purpose.

 

[scottcw]

Hmm! So, the person who made 20 very short, pointless posts in the space of about 15 minutes in an effort to circumvent the ‘20 Posts in Open Forums’ selling rule is now wanting to get one of the other rules on selling changed ?

http://[URL]https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/can-someone-help-me-with-posts.120033/

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I did NOT see that coming.

 

[Tom71]

Maybe I am just having a bad day, but this constant bickering about rules of the Classifieds and their interpretation supremely gets on my nerves.

The rules are there for a reason, and they are not open to change at will of a very limited number of rather new guests.

Until about a year or so, TFL has not been regarded or used as a sales platform. It’s also never meant to be one, but a discussion and participation forum where contributing members can ALSO sale and purchase goods amongst themselves.

I am grateful for the moderators trying to keep a very limited number of sellers at bay who add little to the forum and seem to participate only to misuse the Classifieds for their sales.

 

[Zoro]

My two personal proposals:

1) You are allowed to bump your items in the Classifieds once every week or if you're bumping with a price update of at least 10% (To avoid people bumping just by decreasing by one dollar/euro).

2) If you have three or more active ads, you're forced to consolidate them in a single thread with all you're selling.

These two are to avoid seeing people bumping their stuff everyday or seeing people bumping 15 threads at once of 15 jackets in the same size.

 

[Pandemic]

My two personal proposals:

1) You are allowed to bump your items in the Classifieds once every week or if you're bumping with a price update of at least 10% (To avoid people bumping just by decreasing by one dollar/euro).

2) If you have three or more active ads, you're forced to consolidate them in a single thread with all you're selling.

These two are to avoid seeing people bumping their stuff everyday or seeing people bumping 15 threads at once of 15 jackets in the same size.

This seems very reasonable to me.

 

[BikerMan]

Oh my

 

[cbez]

The only things that ever bothered me are the extremely frequent bumpers and the guys who post 86 listings.

I like the idea of one bump a week, and a consolidated post if you have more than 3 listings.

 

[RDS]

I’m not sure how easy this would be but as one possible solution to the ever increasing number of posts in the Classifieds how about having anything posted in this particular part of the FL just not appearing under ‘New Posts’ ?
Apart from people who sign up to the FL only to then complain they don’t like the rules and want them changed one of my biggest gripes is that every time I take a look at what has been posted since my previous log-in the growing number of those for the Classifieds are just shunting everything down the pages. For example: at the time of writing out of 40 new posts on the first two pages, 20 (for the mathematically challenged that’s a half or 50% or 1 in 2) are just Classifieds. This can result in any possible posts of interest maybe being overlooked because they are now languishing down on page 3,4 or 5.
Those who want to buy or sell can still just click on the Classifieds button at top right of the home page to find what’s there and it’ll leave the rest of us who have no interest in trading to view the many and varied types of post for which I believe the Fedora Lounge was originally created.

 

[Davidc5]

The classifieds are very busy, occasional bumping helps interested parties know the item is still avail and makes it visible. If an item hasnt been commented on in 2 months, would be buyers might be wary that the item is no longer for sale. Also, if the mods are only enforcing the no bumping rule when people report, then that unfairly benefits those who dont get reported. Which, up until now has probably been the vast majority of people.

This has been the way the classified has worked for years and its probably the reason the site is so succesfull, where so many others have died out.

Reiterating what others have said. I like the idea of one bump a week, and a consolidated post if you have more than 3 listings.

 

[Lukken]

The classifieds are very busy, occasional bumping helps interested parties know the item is still avail and makes it visible. If an item hasnt been commented on in 2 months, would be buyers might be wary that the item is no longer for sale. Also, if the mods are only enforcing the no bumping rule when people report, then that unfairly benefits those who dont get reported. Which, up until no has probably been the vast majority of people.

This has been the way the classified has worked for years and its probably the reason the site is so succesfull, where so many others have died out.

Reiterating what others have said. I like the idea of one bump a week, and a consolidated post if you have more than 3 listings.

Beautifully said

 

[JackBroChill]

I've only really been a part of the forum for a few years now, but I had never known there were any rules around bumping until that thread recently popped up considering I have seen countless classifieds being bumped almost every single time I check the forum.

90% of the time, I don't mind and in fact think it's best to be able to bump classified threads. The search function on forums like this is not great and there's no great way to curate what's available without changing the nature of the forum, so a simple 'most recent first' format works best, IMO, and occasional bumping keeps the classified pages refreshed without being overwhelming or without having to dig too far into the back pages to know what's available. Right now there's not so much traffic where bumping clogs up an otherwise busy forum.

I can't imagine how someone would find something for sale 4 months ago without it being bumped, for instance (and sometimes it just takes the right buyer seeing something they wouldn't have otherwise). Bumping also saves as an easy indicator that something is still available rather than someone def facto bumping it by asking that question on an older post in the first place.

I don't know what the 'right' rule would be here, and considering there's only about one or two examples I can recall of truly excessive bumping (which should be self evident to any conscious seller when it's 10+ bump posts without any interest in the span of not very much time) I don't really know if a new or tweaked rule is entirely necessary....just seems like you know it when you see it. But I do think a once per week bump (which even feels excessive if it was my post, but no sweat off the forum's back if someone does that) as well as limiting how many items one can bump at once (there are times where someone has about 7 threads clogging the page which feels unnecessary) would be prudent.

But again, I would say that this seems like a solution in search of a problem short of the two or three times I can think of where I felt like someone should be shamed for excessive bumping. And even then, it's easy enough to ignore and move on.

 

[TheHamPimp]

Just put a timer on it...bump every week, max. Nobody wants to see the same items at the top of the list every time, but bumping has its purpose.